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Hands on it? >> i don't know if they will but the department of justice is fighting this hard. putting up stiff arm. not complying with the subpoena. this watering the efforts of two committee chair american. now chair men tonight said they had made progress and they're in a dialogue, but when you have a subpoena from congress, they should turn over these documents and the yes is kim did a wonderful job reporting this, the question is about timing and did they have the person injected into political campaign reporting back to the obama administration as to what was going on and the timing of a...

The president look, whatever is going on out there, you, sir, are not a target of this investigation. do you believe that and is it your sense that that is that? >> yeah. i mean, i guess i accept it on faith from the reporting that he did tell him that now, what that means is absolutely up for discussion. as y'all were just talking about, you know, we did hear this earlier on. whether that means that the president doesn't become a target later on, something doesn't develop is absolutely part of this. there has been this move here in congress to defend the mural probe and defend rod rosenstein ...

One it gives rosenstein and mueller breathing room. makes it a lot less likely that the president would terminate either of them at least in the near future. it also validates to some extent what the president has been saying when he was saying there was no collusion. we haven't done anything. if mueller has been investigating this for some time now and the president is not a target of the investigation, that tells you something. now, the thing to keep in mind, of course, is that someone's status as a nontarget can always change. as the investigation continues, mueller may gather more evidence...

Been told not once but twice that he is not in these latest developments the focus or the targets of let's say just the mural probe if we are to take bloomberg to be consistent maybe the michael cohen probe widely to look at the other investigation going on involving the president's personal lawyer. your thoughts? >> my thoughts are that a lot of democrats, a lot of people in the press, a lot of critics of donald trump have been itching at the bait here waiting for donald trump to be thrown out of town by robert mueller. he is going to find that there was collusion with russia which is somehow...

Always been something that's concerned people close to trump. the reason for that is very simple. he has more visibility than just about anyone into the president's personal business affairs for the past decade. and this went right to the heart of that. this is not under the purview and limited scope of the mural probe. this is the southern district of new york. it's a separate deal. and the worry among these people is when they go down the michael cohen rabbit hole, what else do they find and where does that lead? it's clearly something that concerns the president. and you can see that from h...