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Policy team, foreign policy team and he's like, i like the look. the look works. >> during the transition at trump tower he would tell people around him the idea of wanting someone that came out of central casting. >> great. >> that's how rex tillerson got there. >> my god. it's just -- >> one secretary of state nominee or a possibility was too short. >> he's going to go there. >> so he said he couldn't -- he told us he skoucouldn't select even though he was too short. and then of course he could never put bolton at the state department because he said he looked like captain kangaroo. >> he wa...