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Back. many are saying that they don't become the viral load will less lethal overtime. and dr. marc siegel is here with us. what is your take on that? >> martha, the key here is how transmissible the virus is. omicron is extremely transmissible. the world health organization reported 15 million cases last week alone. that was 50% more than the week along. this thing is racing around the globe. in africa, less than 10% of the people are vaccinated. we're not slowing it down with vaccines. also in africa where omicron came from, there's a lot of untreated hiv. meaning the virus could be inside s...

To be reminded, that if there are swathesl of unvaccinated populations, this gives chances for - the virus to mutate, - so just when we were settling comfortably, thinking - we could celebrate the end of the year, people _ are considering lockdowns again and the virus is back with us. will we get a third chance? i'm not sure. it sometimes comes in threes. yet the science was there. nothing was secret about it. we knew what we had to do, but people's instinct - is to protect themselves. you can't blame people, but... it is an interesting challenge i suspect we will be talking about a year from ...

Opposed to rapid tests has been misguided, from a public health standpoint is not whether you have the virus but whether you are spreading it to others. rapid antigen tests determine that pretty quickly. compared to europe tests in the united states cost way more and are far less widely available. similarly, we should make widely available cheap, high-quality masks. german's leading virologist recently said omicron could become the first post-pandemic covid variant, which would like make the disease an endemic one, not so lethal and one we will live with like the flu. we cannot be sure of this...

Final wave of the pandemic, this is what dr. fauci said about that on monday. >> it is an open question as to whether or not omicron is going to be the virus vaccination that everyone is hoping for. >> what say you? do we think that's a reasonable possibility? >> i rarely disagree with dr. fauci and when i do, i often find myself wrong. i don't think we know the answer. omicron is going to change the course of the next couple of months because so many people will be infected, they're going to get a boost to their immunity. it's definitely going to cause a short-term drop in omicron cases and h...

Should that be the strategy going forward? should we still be trying to convince people to get the shot? or are we at a point now where people who are going to get the shot have gotten the shot? >> we absolutely need to continue to convince people. there's no doubt about it. when we see what's happening in the hospitals and the icus and the deaths, it's largely those who are not vaccinated. that is really critical that we continue to communicate that. the other thing that makes it really important is that if we're really going to get a handle on this virus and hope to position it in the way we...