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I got to use me some tic tacs. and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. grab them by a [ bleep ]. >> on the phone with me now is hugh hewitt, a radio host and friend of the show. hugh, you, sir, have traversed the fruited plane from never trumper to trump supporter to now tweeting, if we could put that up for the benefit of the country, for his own good, donald trump should withdraw. more and worse oppo coming. what about this latest incident finally changed your mind? >> good morning, joy from beautiful bakersfield. it's a beautiful day in california. i've never been a...

>> that was cardinal lalette from canada. interesting. my correction. an important distinction because this is somebody who we're talking about how candidates sometimes drop out becomes relevant. let's listen for a second. >> you can see coming up in the line someone who has garnered a lot of attention, cardinal shawn o'malley, with the beard, will be fourth up. >> before we get to cardinal o'malley, with cardinal walette from canada. two main candidates aren't getting to two-thirds cardinal believe god must not want either one. his name comes up. >> sure. if you run the list of what cardinals...

And basically -- we're going to play a clip from the documentary, but they all claimed complete ignorance. >> general myers and general brown knew at the end of april, general abizae learned on may 6th, secretary rumsfeld learned on may 20th -- >> can i make a point here? i want to make sure it's precisely accurate. i do not believe i at theed that i learned on may 20th. and if i -- if that impression has been left, i don't want that left. my testimony is that i just simply do not know when i first learned of the possibility. >> my correction. >> sir, if i may, i wanted to make sure that the 6...

And basically -- we're going to play a clip from the documentary, but they all claimed complete ignorance. >> general myers and general brown knew at the end of april, general abizae learned on may 6th, secretary rumsfeld learned on may 20th -- >> can i make a point here? i want to make sure it's precisely accurate. i do not believe i at theed that i learned on may 20th. and if i -- if that impression has been left, i don't want that left. my testimony is that i just simply do not know when i first learned of the possibility. >> my correction. >> sir, if i may, i wanted to make sure that the 6...