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The real difference. mark easton, bbc news. with me is inspectorjason kew from the violence reduction unit with thames valley police. he led the development of both an adult and child drug diversion scheme that's now being used force—wide in the thames valley. and also i'm joined by paul hannaford. he almost lost his life after a heroin addiction. he's been clean for about 1k years and now educates children on the risks of gang crime and drug addiction. welcome and drug addiction. to you both. could she speak to welcome to you both. could she speak to you this evening. let me just ask you on...

Mueller and hope for a reduced sentence or no prison time or wait for your pardon from the president? which side do you join here? >> expecting a parred is a dicey proposition to say theleast. there's bit of a track record of late of issuing pardons by this president but that's a ugh thing for a target like doen anticipate and expect. he's under a lot of pressure. he's potentially, he hasn't been charged with anything yet at you mentioned but potentially he is facing a lot of exposure. he has to be thinking about his future, his family's future and hopefully listening to his lawyers going forw...

Steve: watch this. brian: when do we toss to jillian? >> right now. brian: hey jillian. jillian: hi, brian. brian: does anyone know where brian is. steve: next to you. brian: are you the one that hosts the show at 5:00 a.m. ainsley: come up with a. brian: here is someone that never hides from the truth. someone never described as a loany from the midwest jillian meally not weird at all. someone who never breaks the law as far as we know. jillian mele. talking about a pile of dough. talking about somebody that is a pile of mope. jillian the news. jillian: i don't know what to say about that one...

we should address? >> not really, no. you're a politician. >> yeah. okay. i'm being pulled away. you know, we turned down another interview for this. >> where are you going? you're leaving? absolutely extraordinary, dare i say it, surreal moment. christine o'donnell, one-time tea party darling walks out of my studio rather than answering straightforward questions. you've heard all about the fuss. and if you missed it, tonight we're going to reair the whole interview all over again. i'm going to get some of the smartest people in politics and media to weigh in with their verdict. was ...

you know, we turned down another interview for this. >> where are you going? you're leaving? absolutely extraordinary, dare i say it, rather surreal moment. christine o'donnell, one-time tea party darling walks out of my studio rather than answering straightforward questions. you've heard all about the fuss. and if you missed it, tonight we're going to re-air the whole interview all over again. i'm going to get some of the smartest people in politics and media to weigh in with their verdict. was it christine's day? or was it mine? >> all right. are we off? are we done? >> i'm not. i'...