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Hard to walk back, and i think he needs to explain himself. >> i know democrats want to hear from him. that was what we had heard prior to the new testimony, but he's saying, no, i'm not going to. i have immunity. that was his argument. that's why he defied a subpoena yesterday when he was supposed to testify or his testimony had been requested, so i guess to the second part of that question, how far are democrats willing to go in order to get him before the committees? >> i don't know the answer to that. let me just say, i think we have plenty in front of us with which to have public hearings...

Pressed by the president himself, and i think his testimony would be a desirable thing, whether congress decides to pursue it with a subpoena and delay the process is a question we're going to have to examine carefully because we're on a realtime bind here if we want to get this wrapped up before the end of the year. >> and is that the goal? is that the definitive goal to try to do this before the end of the year? >> the speakers office indicated that they would like to have this done sometime around the holiday season, christmas holiday season. i think that's a realistic goal, so long as ther...

Few days, and president trump's impeachment inquiry, notable for who testified, who refused to testify and who will go under oath in the near future in public. for his part, the president says he's feeling pretty good about it. >> i'm not concerned about anything. the testimony has all been fine. i mean, for the most part, i never even heard of these people. i have no idea who they are. they shouldn't be having public hearings. this is a hoax. this is just like the russian witch hunt. this is just a continuation. >> a few things have happened that show how the trump administration might be pre...

Personal financial statements from 2011, 2012 and 2013. which he gave to deutsche bank to inquire about a loan to buy the buffalo bills and to forbes. these are exhibits 1a, 1b, and 1c to my testimony. >> that obviously is michael cohen's opening statement to the house oversight committee just last month. he was talking about what he said was the president's hackett of inflating or shrinking the declared values of assets depending on whether he was seeking loans, buying insurance for his properties or paying taxes on them. in short, if proven, it could amounting amount to several types of frau...

The buffalo bills and to forbes. these are exhibits 1a, 1b, and 1c to my testimony. >> that obviously is michael cohen's opening statement to the house oversight committee just last month. he was talking about what he said was the president's hackett of inflating or shrinking the declared values of assets depending on whether he was seeking loans, buying insurance for his properties or paying taxes on them. in short, if proven, it could amount to a whole lot of several types of fraud. during his questioning several lawmakers asked him to elaborate. >> to your knowledge did the president ever p...