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Missed the boat. >> couple weeks ago he was going to be jimmy carter, and then health care passed. he has a whole lineup of things he wants to do, including financial deregulation, energy policy. he could go and swing and run around the bases this whole first year. basically he said, you know what? this is what i said i was going to do. i did it and now vote for me. >> the flip side of accomplishment -- obviously presidents come to accomplish things. ultimately taking the measure of him as a leader, something you've done in the course of the work on the book, what have we learned about barack ...

The issues for republicans, democrats and barack obama in particular, how do you lure back those independents? more and more people are identifying themselves as independents, and how do i bring them back in? even to go back to your previous question, remember mario cuomo famously said we campaign in poetry and govern in prose. he has a government with more poetry to get those folks to. >> i want to talk about his ascent, his ambition, how we understand that and how that's playing out in his presidency thus far. david, your book deals with something very central which is that for barack obama ...

Something very positive for the world. remember south africa is a place that almost had a racial civil war. the fact that nelson mandela is one of the greatest figures of the century is he averted armageddon, and he did it by preaching reconciliation. remember they were a majority that was disenfranchised. he spent most of his first year as president talking to whites saying basically we're in this together. there's a lot of similarity, a lot of similarity also in temperament. nelson mandela went to prison when he was almost barack obama's age, there for 27 years. he was a hard-headed tempestu...

Named amano who has what he calls a more balanced view and has major concerns about iran. why am i saying this? i think the real test will be what the un will do. i think it's good news chinese premier hu is coming here in two weeks to a terrorism summit with 45 countries. hopefully that will be a chance for him and president obama to talk about the un where china and russia's support for multi lateral sanctions is key. congress is on board with strong debilitating sanctions on a bipartisan basis. the u.s. will be there. but it has to be multi lateral to be truly debilitating. by the way, yeme...

Sanctions quickly. i believe congress will adopt a tough sanctions bill soon, i hope this month of april. secondly, they've got to be tough because, frankly, it's the last chance that we're giving iran and ourselves not to be left with a choice of either accepting them having nuclear weapons or taking military action. in my opinion, we have to be prepared to take military action, to stop the iranian nuclear program if they refuse to stop themselves. so far, if you look at the last three or four years, we've had threats, we've had engagement, we've had negotiations, and all the while iran keeps...