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Witness, a buddy named jay who testified that adnon showed him the dead body in a car trunk before the two men proceeded to bury her. there is no dispute whether the podcast is well produced and engaging entertainment. is society well served by it? i've been tweeting after listening to each episode. i adopted my hash tag which is entertainment not evidence. i worry that the public is getting a distorted view of the case. >> when i first met anon, i was struck by two things. he was way bigger than expected. barrel chested and tall. and the photos i had seen he was a lanky teen with struggling f...

Presentation. >> i think not only should that information have been shared and i'm not here to defend every aspect of the podcast but it should also be mentioned that no reasonable lawyer ever puts his client on the witness stand except if he feels the case against him is overwhelming because it takes the attention away from the witnesses the prosecution put on the case. and as far as a deal, i've had many clients who claim innocence, needing to make a deal if they think that the risks of going to trial far exceed the benefits of having a plea and a short sentence. none of these are desire pos...

Different. one of the best known defense lawyers, also the author of "terror tunnels." he joins me from miami. professor, we have this societal problem of no snitching. no snitching campaign. in this case a guy snitched. isn't that good and isn't he being villainized in the podcast you know i refer to jay. >> of course it's a good thing to snitch on guilty people. it's not a good thing to make up a story about an innocent person. and what we don't know for sure. hook hard at the evidence. harder than the evidence that the case did and present to the court of public opinion both sides of the is...

Witness, a buddy named jay who testified that adnon showed him the dead body before the two proceeded to bury her. there is no dispute whether the podcast is well produced and engaging entertainment. is society well served by it? i've been tweeting after listening to each episode. i adopted my hash tag which is entertainment not evidence. i worry that the public is getting a distorted view of the case. >> when i first met anon i was struck by two things. he was way bigger than expected. and the photos i had seen he was a lanky teen with struggling facial hair and saggy jeans. he spent nearly h...

Terrible thing in the past. the most important thing is this gives the public an insight into doubt, into how the legal system deals with doubt. anybody who has listened to the podcast comes away saying he may very well have done it some think he probably did it but everybody's going to say there is some doubt about jay's story which he's changed repeatedly. and i think it's important for the public to know that cases are not based on absolute certainty. we say beyond a reasonable doubt but then we change the standard based on new evidence. and we say that even if there was possibly a reasonab...