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Million.st and all this has led to increasing calls for democrats to perhaps slow down the impeachment process just a bit to try to compel bolton and others to testify.ngto i'm joined by former u.s. district judge nancy gerdner, o senior lecturer at harvard law school. and u.s. attorney chuck rosenberg and msnbc contributor. let me start with you as a former federal district judge, what the law says about absolute immunity, compelling testimony f from people from various of mick mulvaney to pompeo in the light of yesterday's decision by a federal judge saying mcgahn does have to testify. >> th...

And all this has led to increasing calls for democrats to perhaps slow down the impeachment process just a bit to try to compel bolton and others to testify. i'm joined by former u.s. district judge nancy gerdner, and a former senior fbi official and u.s. attorney chuck rosenberg and msnbc contributor. let me start with you as a former federal district judge, what the law says about absolute immunity, compelling testimony from people from various of mick mulvaney to pompeo in the light of yesterday's decision by a federal judge saying mcgahn does have to testify. >> there was nothing surprisin...

As too much evidence. and so i understand the political imperative. i understand why democrats feel they need to move quickly. i would just prefer to know everything.to and if i can't know everything,i i would prefer to know as much as i could possibly know. and if that means tapping on the brakes slightly, that makes sense.on and oh, by the way, chris, i don't really care if a witness has an "r" or a "d" after their name. if they're telling the truth i'd like to hear it. >> and this goes back to argument bolton's attorneys are now making. b and after all some of his deputies have already come...

That he was not already pleading guilty to, and that should bring us right back around to the trump organization investigation that they're still conducting. >> nancy, i'm thrilled we have the benefit of your expertise tonight because this is now going right into judge lane. how does a judge take these two very different recommendations? mueller saying basically he lied but he helped, you figure it out. and the sdny saying this is a bad dude. he is a criminal, he's a liar, he thinks he's, quote, above the law and should get about four years. what does the judge do? >> the judge will have two a...