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We are watching right here the last ride for president george h.w. bush. his final journey home. the train carrying his casket is pulling into college station as we speak. there will be an arrival ceremony and the former president will be taken to his presidential library nearby and laid to rest next to his wife barbara and their daughter robin who died of leukemia when she was just 3 years old. joining us is nancy gibes, author of "the presidents club." we spent the day together yesterday. this is the final, final leg of the journey for the 41st president. what do you make a day after all the...

Sort of most high profile moment on the world stage was to side with vladimir putin over his own intelligence community. it's such a departure from, you know, as you've all been saying, the way america views its leaders and their roles on the world stage. >> yeah, well, look, the president sat there and listened. and i'm curious what he heard. and i don't know the answer to that. but he was there, and i wonder if he heard a rebuke or if he thought perhaps i can change, perhaps i can live up to this. in the past, we have probably had 50 conversations around this table about, will he change, wil...

Respect for the man, but there was also a nostalgia for a different way of doing business. and with 3,000 people in that cathedral representing so many crucial american and global institutions that president bush 41 revered and strengthened and served that the notion that our institutions are failing us, that public trust in institutions has been declining steadily is something that would be heartbreaking to someone like that president and those who shared his faith that public service and the institutions through which they serve are essential to our collective success. >> nancy, i want to re...

Was a moment to me that sort of showed what nancy is describing. when george w. bush walked down the center of that cathedral, he shook the current president's hand, shook melania's hand but his face -- george w. bush doesn't have an emotion he's capable of hiding, and his face sort of exploded into a big warm smile. he reached with his left hand and took out a candy and handed it to michelle obama. and that wasn't for the cameras. that was just a jefgesture, an inside joke between two families who really, they couldn't have represented more different things from a political or an ideological ...