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apparatus and it is analogous to a criminal prison, is that it is at a local level. we're giving just a number of topics that relate to any share of's duties. -- sheriff's duties. >> how are those opinions relevant to the issues in this case? >> they are going to set forth the standards of professional conduct associated with the position of -- the second prong of the misconduct definition goes to the standard of professional conduct and we have assembled a list of peers of the sheriff who can speak to the conduct requirements from the position of being a peer of the sheriff. that is...

>> yes. >> what about chief still -- still? >> i am in agreement. >> as an expert. >> it sounds like we will hear about running the jail system here. i do not think we need her. chairperson hur: do we need nancy lemmon with respect to domestic violence? >> i would like to hear from her. >> so would i.. >> i would as well. i would like to hear from effort number one or two for the reasons are shielded by commissioner city. >> i agree. one or two, not both, >> i agree with that as well. among the ted -- the two. ms. kaiser, if we were to exclude one or teo, do you have a preference? >>...

question about how we have not provided a list of opinions. prior that has to do with a tight schedule we face. at the last hearing where we briefed all the substantive issues and other investigative issues as well. put together all our fact witnesses and found and listed for you all our experts. i have not had time yet to work extensively with each expert to find out what their opinions are. it is not a matter of i have a list of opinions for them. it is a matter of if they have a list of opinions for me. i need to know they have the qualifications and they were willing to participa...

this. if we could nail him down in a stipulation. at least the subject matter would be firm. we may be able to forgo her. i am concerned about what is at issue here is the guilty plea to a misdemeanor. that is not what is at issue. what is at issue is the burkle behavior. not the guilty plea. the guilty plea is an admission of criminal guilt but it is not an element of official misconduct and should not be mistaken for the truth and love the a good dog -- of the inquiry. we cannot agree to be limited to what share of mirkarimi is willing to admit to. >> no one is saying you should be...

can speak to the conduct requirements from the position of being a peer of the sheriff. that is the legal test associated with the definition of a right conduct standard. i do want to respond to your question about how we have not provided a list of opinions. prior that has to do with a tight schedule we face. at the last hearing where we briefed all the substantive issues and other investigative issues as well. put together all our fact witnesses and found and listed for you all our experts. i have not had time yet to work extensively with each expert to find out what their opinions...