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Right now it's already nearly midday on saturday. and the reclusive state, it happens to be the biggest holiday of the year, known as the day of the sun, honoring the country's founder, kim o -- il sung. there are giant likenesses everywhere. from childhood every north korean gets taught the mythic stories of their greatness. today's day of the sun sunday celebrations like so many in the past featured an elaborate parade to display the state's military capabilities. let's bring in our panel. ambassador nancy soderberg who worked with president clinton and as ambassador to the united nations. d...

The reality nancy, is no matter what the -- >> give max a chance to talk. >> there is no question that iran is a -- >> guys. let him talk. >> we are not doing anything effective to stop iran. it goes beyond a terror report. the fact is as general petraeus pointed out iran is running a proxy war in syria and iraq as well as in yemen. it is taking over a good portion of the region. and what are we doing to oppose iranian design? i don't see anything. instead i hear administration spokesmen saying iranian actions are potentially helpful as long as they're not do divisive. the very nature is secta...

Iranian design? i don't see anything. instead i hear administration spokesmen saying iranian actions are potentially helpful as long as they're not do divisive. the very nature is sectarian -- >> let him finish, nancy. >> nancy, if you could stop interrupting me. the fact is the very nature of iranian action is divisive and sectarian. and it sends the wrong message when president obama is reaching out to the iranian people not to tell them to overthrow their rulers whom they hate and who oppress them but to tell them about how he's about to reach a deal with their rulers that will allow them t...

21% -- 60% of that country is under the age of 21. we want them to see a different iran. >> i'm sure they all got to see it it was such an open society -- >> that's another problem. >> i think nancy's point is frankly -- is based on an absurd premise. i would argue that for any negotiations to take place, they first must renounce terrorism, their ties to terrorism and being a state sponsor of terrorism. and i think the president's comments are beyond any naive if he thinks it's anything different. it's a dangerous precedent the president is setting. >> i think you're right, sean. this presiden...