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Asset development is for higher income people. >> that's right. the interview, itself, to take a step back, like, i just was like, what are you doing? why is this happening? that was my response to the interview. like, who sits there across from the president of the united states and says, you're a nanny state guy. this is the kind of guy i am. like, what? >> it takes, like, i don't even think cajonnys is the appropriate -- it's like human being rouse and a lack of self-awareness to sit there across from a man who was race raised with no father, his mother died of cancer before he became presi...

Step back, like, i just was like, what are you doing? why is this happening? that was my response to the interview. like, who sits there across from the president of the united states and says, you're a nanny state guy. this is the kind of guy i am. like, what? >> it takes, like, i don't even think cojones is the appropriate -- it's like human being rouse and a lack of self-awareness to sit there across from a man who was race raised with no father, his mother died of cancer before he became president. who is president for no reason other than his starter attitude about the world and say, oh, ...

>> food morning. martha: my first question was, well, how much money has been spent on these programs in the past? >> right. it's one of the depressing things about the age we're in where $20 million you're like, oh, that's not that much, you know? [laughter] it's amazing how little 20 million gets you from the government these days. martha: so you have a problem with this expenditure? >> well, look, i have a problem -- part of what this is going to do is going to be an ad campaign telling people how to live right and live healthy, and i'm not a big nanny state guy. i think part of that's tear...