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Maybe a trump administration would look to of how to cross a big infrastructure project. the things that happened under eisenhower's administration are forgotten. the most surprising thing was how concerned he was about giving this message to kennedy and to the american public about the deficit, bipartisan and the military industrial complex. >> do you see any parallels this time around or do you look at this transition differently knowing what you now know having to do the book? bret: kennedy just won the election and they meet president eisenhower and the bookends with president elect trump ...

"king tut," the african explorers, and all that. what is it about that that makes you -- >> you know, i had a history minor in college. and what bothered me was -- i love history. i love the characters in history. and i think that history is even larger than life than most fiction, but most history books are written in a way that puts you to sleep. i mean, too many footnotes, a really dry, academic style. >> 800 pages. you can't get through it. >> and i think history should rise up off the page. it should be three-dimensional. >> right. so, you had to research so even i understood it, which, y...

Of books on your own -- "king tut," the african explorers, and all that. what is it about that that makes you -- >> you know, i had a history minor in college. and what bothered me was -- i love history. i love the characters in history. and i think that history is even larger than life than most fiction, but most history books are written in a way that puts you to sleep. i mean, too many footnotes, a really dry, academic style. >> 800 pages. you can't get through it. >> and i think history should rise up off the page. it should be three-dimensional. >> right. so, you had to research so even i...

Now, why history? you wrote a whole bunch of books on your own king tut, the african-american explorers and all that what is it about that that makes you -- >> -- you know i had a history minor in college. what bothered me is i love history. i love the characters in history. i think history is even larger in life than most fiction but most history books are written in a way that puts you to sleep. too many footnotes. really dry academic style. >> 800 pages you can't get through it? >> i think history should rise up off the page and be glee dimensional. >> you had research. come down. fourth, f...

What's the catch? >> the catch, the home is near the keystone pipeline. >> we need to leave. >> it's too late. >> it's going to be okay. it's going to be okay. >> ah! >> what, what galls me, the bad science is pushed in individually that a lot of people see by talented people. >> when you do something in a narrative form, using somebody like wendy mallek, recognizable actre actress, and do it with this clever theme as the you said that looks like a horror movie. it is very, very effective. so the people that are pushing the environmental agenda. >> america's biggest recent environmental, econo...