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The premiums for the average person when you create a high risk pool and subsidize those premiums for those patients through a different pooling. >> unfortunately, it hasn't happened on a nation basis. we haven't been able to do it on a national basis ever will. >> that's why we think these amendments, especially the palmer amendment, important, because we get a chance to do what happened in maine on a national scale. >> i think we're going to find that maine is not representative of the problems the entire united states faces when it comes to health care. >> actually, it is. because it has a ...

And pretty robust economy going down there and those border states really depend on it. arizona in the meantime has fallen back in terms of trade with arizona. so there's an economic component to all of this from a state to nation basis, i gather? >> seas exactly right. there's overnet immigration now is a zero we've done polling that shows that a third of the country in america thinks that 50 to 100% of spanish who are here are here illegally. that's so out of wabllied. >> you'll be heening into