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People will be worried about who has the personal private medical details, address, phone numberand who knows what else. details, address, phone number and who knows what else.— who knows what else. typically we want to think _ who knows what else. typically we want to think about _ who knows what else. typically we want to think about this _ who knows what else. typically we want to think about this as - who knows what else. typically we want to think about this as a - who knows what else. typically we | want to think about this as a nation state attack. more often than not, it is organised...

Rogue countries, countries that we are in dispute with, i do not need to name them, it would be in their interest to disrupt british society and how it operates and can continue, but also as you mentioned earlier, they get information, particularly from databases, medical phone lines like this one. what is that information actually then used for? lots of people will be worried this evening, we have been assured not to, but people will be worried about who has the personal private medical details, address, phone number and who knows what else. typically we jump to think about this as a nation s...

Out the stakes. the two leaders are meeting in geneva, switzerland now meeting now after taking sharp jabs from a distance. congressman michael mccaul is on the house foreign affairs committee. what would you expect to see out of this something they might be able to agree on or where might they not be able to at all see eye-to-eye? >> i certainly hope the president brings up these cyberattacks. between the what happened with colonial pipeline, what happened with solar winds. i think we need to lay a new rules of the road in place. there will be consequences to bad behavior. we'll hit back. i t...

>> john: do we have proof of that? >> of course. the usaid attack. any time you have a nation-state attack, i think our nation should respond in kind. i think they've gotten away with this for way too long. colonial pipeline was a russian organized mafia which i believe has integrated with the oligarchs including himself. probably has tacit approval of that. so i hope the president can bring this up with putin that if you can't stop these attacks we are going to have to start responding. once we do the attribution to find out where the attacks are coming from, we are going hit you back in kind...

Russia? >> there is no question private sector needs to do more when it comes to defending against these attacks. but we clearly delineated between what constitutes a nation state attack versus the country that har both ransom ware groups. russia has the top five ransom ware companies sitting in their own country targeting corporations in the united states. the biggest issue is there is no delineation between russia as a country that allows the organized crime groups to operate with impunity. we can't extradite them. until that delineation is removed and we hold those countries accountable, it...