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A lot of his positioning and whatnot. i agree with david completely there really have a question about whether there is an opening for any establishment candidate to first of all unify folks and second of all whether there is an opening to take up enough of the oxygen and enough of the voters to be relevant at all come february and march. >> if you want an outsider but for some reason you don't like the bluster or the, know, whatever comes with donald trump, he is too confident or whatever it is, dr. ben carson, is that your outsider guy? >> well, because when the campaign moved to focus on na...

Time connecting to voters. she's a rock star when you sit her in a room and talk to her about national security. off the charts. and when she got out with after that particular debate and was doing national security forums, she was hard a hard time connecting. part of it is that ceo style of even temperament. sometimes they want their candidates to get a little feisty and emotional. she missed that part, and i think that's what cost her that momentum. >> i've been on the trail with her, and she really does connect on the ground. i just wish she would make more of these great debate performance...

Excontinual threat to the united states. this isn't being talked about as i see on the campaign trail, russia, you know, when jimmy carter weighs in for a day, definitely going to get news. i have been out with these 2016 candidates and if you are talking about a foreign policy issue, which is tough in a campaign at this point anyway, you are going to talk about isis. so, you know, you don't really hear -- you are not really hearing the depth on these issues yet. i think this will come later on. there are some groups holding national security forums that it comes up on but it's not on the tip ...