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Learned by everybody. quite, thanks for that carl. tamuz, ijust want to come back to you, do you want to comment on what you heard our panel say about this? i want to be an optimist. you want to be an optimist, we like that here. let me just get a couple of comments from our audience here on what they have heard our panel say today. anybody want to make a comment? russia became a successor state of the soviet union, _ they took over their seat in the security council —| but did they change? right, thank you very much. another comment please from our audience? the proposal to include ukraine ...

Quite, thanks for that carl. tamuz, ijust want to come back to you, do you want to comment on what you heard our panel say about this? i want to be an optimist. you want to be an optimist, we like that here. let me just get a couple of comments from our audience here on what they have heard our panel say today. anybody want to make a comment? russia became a successor state of the soviet union, _ they took over their seat in the security council —| but did they change? right, thank you very much. another comment please from our audience? the proposal to include ukraine as a "nato plus" membe...

Of comments from our audience here on what they have heard our panel say today. anybody want to make a comment? russia became a successor state of the soviet union, _ they took over their seat in the security council —| but did they change? right, thank you very much. another comment please from our audience? the proposal to include ukraine . as a "nato plus" member will give the possibility to the usa to foster and enlarge the american - arms sales to ukraine. that looks to me as a great adventure commercial- possibility for the usa, _ but in conrtrast there are far fewer possibilities for ...