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I'm not sure we'll hit that but the 4% forecast was preelection. we're very bullish. we had a very good weekend. >> chris: christmas shopping for the season was up 5.6% last year. do you think you're going to have that strong a christmas shopping season this year? >> well, thanks to an act of the president 75 years ago, president roosevelt, we have a long holiday season. >> chris: explain because thanksgiving was very early. >> that's right. the 23rd. it can't be earlier than that. >> chris: o was it the 22. >> nd the fourth thursday. that gives us an extra weekend, christmas is on a tuesday s...

I'm not sure we'll hit that but the 4% forecast was preelection. we're very bullish. we had a very good weekend. >> chris: christmas shopping for the season was up 5.6% last year. do you think you're going to have that strong a christmas shopping season this year? >> well, thanks to an act of the president 75 years ago, president roosevelt, we have a long holiday season. >> chris: explain because thanksgiving was very early. >> that's right. the 23rd. it can't be earlier than that. >> chris: o was it the 22. >> nd the fourth thursday. that gives us an extra weekend, christmas is on a tuesday s...