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Critizing vice-president biden. >> the bottom line, the states and musnis palities where you will get blow ups in terps of bankruptcy, david has to do with benefits and health care benefits and we have op-ended and no cost at all . don't fund pension fund and allows abuse of overtime and benefits and double dipping and triple dipping and things spin out of the control. bottom line, it is not the task or begridge them will to do that. but you don't overpay and abuse the taxpayer. >> how do you deal with contracts that simply can't be met. it made promises that couldn't be fulfilled and how do y...

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He did it begrudging. >> it is like the soviet arguing history. the economy slowed down when he put tax increase and not enough to help george bush. and company started to roar . clinton put the tax increases in and we go in a recession nearly. he slowed the recovery down and 95 and 96 it got back on track again. >> emac. i know people dump on bush. but job rates grew under bush. >> that's true. and absolutely, david. and going back to clinton. the '93 tax hike it brought in only a third of what they expected it to be. and the cuts in capitol gains and death tax. i don't want our tax money and...

Thats as well and reforms are starting to take place. we need to reform and look at what is necessary and what isn't. going back to the nsf and seems like silly research. sarah palin, in 2008, attacked fruit fly research and didn't realize saying it was silly spending is that flute fly research is the base of genetic research. companies are looking at fruit flis and the affect it has . and you have companies that are doing it on their own and making money. isn't that a better way to go? >> the problem is david, once you start the wasteful program they're difficult to kill. in reagan years th...