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Be the process for going about to get the full thing? >> obviously, that's one thing subpoena because form normally you would say there's a great executive privilege argument, this is after a presidential conversation. but they've already released the summary or summary transcript so i think that is not going to be a strong argument here. but at the end of the day what we've seen from this white house is their position is they don't really care, they'll just say no and article 3, the third article was failure to respond to subpoenas, a series of subpoenas and that's what happened then, and we'...

A strong argument here. but at the end of the day what we've seen from this white house is their position is they don't really care, they'll just say no and article 3, the third article was failure to respond subpoenas, a series of subpoenas and that's what happened then, and we'll see whether that's what happens now or this gets resolved by the courts. >> there's the courts, and what's really fascinating to me is this nas fating education there's this nebulous about who's going to adjudicate this and which branch has privacy. and one of the things fascinating to me, jill, is that they are cle...