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And i tried to stop the train of the coup, right. but again, if that is your deal, harry, to come back to you on the politics and optics here, right, it is hard for that to be your deal and then try to get out of what is obviously jermaine legal testimony to a criminal investigation by the department of justice. >> one hunted percent. and it is basically impossible for him politically, i think, to do what other trump partisans do one push to the wall, plead the fifth. that is mr. constitution, mr. pious, et cetera. but he would prefer not to look like he is being forced. and the department, in...

>> one hunted percent. and it is basically impossible for him politically, i think, to do what other trump partisans do one push to the wall, plead the fifth. that is mr. constitution, mr. pious, et cetera. but he would prefer not to look like he is being forced. and the department, in a sophisticated way, understands that as well. so, as long as it'll give the information, it will be sort of consistent with the dignity he wants to have. if he's walking in a voluntary way. but also he has to worry about the right flank, as you said, and the maga voters. it's just the delicate dance on both sid...