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he is south africa's most prominent, most controversial political cartoonist. so, amid all of its troubles, is south africa able to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it's a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, "moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist." you've been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell...

jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it's a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, "moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist." you've been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i'm going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news — itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in th...

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To people who kind of need clarification or if something is very funny or very shocking, but itjust does hit the mark, that's what i was trying to do. and he's never escaped from that image, but perhaps even darker was your decision to draw this cartoon. you've drawn him, it would seem, as a would—be rapist, a man who was about to force himself upon ladyjustice, the symbol of lady justice. and there are individuals, political figures in south africa who are holding ladyjustice down, aiding and abetting zuma. this is dark. yeah, it is dark, and there were people who were angry at me for portr...