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And so i think she leads by listening and following. i'm not going to say women do that, but following her caucus. >> wait. what are you saying, gloria! >> and i think you hear that in the way she has risen to the gravity of the moment. >> i think, mark, she's saying, i don't need directions, i know where i'm going. >> she certainly does. what's interesting about nancy pelosi, to pick up on what gloria is saying, if you go back to day one, she was never pushing for impeachment. >> not at all. >> she was the governor, slowing it down a little bit, let's be methodical about it. >> she thought th...

This. >> yeah. >> and so i think she leads by listening and following. i'm not going to say women do that. but following her caucus -- >> wait, what are you saying, gloria? >> nothing. and i think you hear that in the way she has risen to the gravity of the moment. >> yeah. i think mark, she's saying i don't need directions. i know where i'm going. >> you know, don, you know what's interesting about nancy pelosi and to pick up what gloria's saying right now, if you go back to day one, she was never pushing for impeachment. she was always the one, the governor, she was the one slowing it down a...

>> let's see what is ahead "outnumbered." >> police say dna on a pizza crust helped catch the suspect for a gruesome washington, d.c. murder. why don't have 50 states allow for dna collection after an arrest? >> and we are waiting for the big state department dump of the clinton e-mails and more bad news on the clinton's finances. >> and why guys refuse to ask for driving direction is solved. it drives me insane. >> is judge alex ferrer one of them? he is our #oneluckyguy. jon of course you are willing? >> i don't need directions because i always know where i am going. >> here we go. >> thank ...