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To do with russian collusion. >> he's all but promised. look at his words and the verbiage used. pretty much dangled this in front of him. look what he said about cohen. looking for a good lawyer, don't call michael cohen, but when we get to paul manafort, this poor guy. such a victim. look how horribly they're treating him. i disagree a little. >> that he's a stand-up guy. >> exactly. this chapter of the trump presidency is clearly directed by martin scorsese, obviously. i disagree a little, because this is not a president who necessarily follows the advice of his counsel. right? he's demonst...

What did prosecutors learn? you've written about, talked about how rick gates wasn't that effective of a witness for prosecutors to put forward. bearing that in mind, how does their strategy change looking ahead to the september 17th trial? >> re-evaluate rick gates a little built. he proved to be a worse witness than they expected. >> essential? told from the get-go, a documents case. how essential was it? how did they make the case themselves he was -- >> a couple things they really did sort of need rick gates to explain, but remember, they charged manafort for all of these crimes without ri...