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He said suppose i do this, suppose i replace him, jeff rosen, with him, jeff clark. what would you do? and i said, mr. president, i would resign immediately. i'm not working one minute for this guy, who i had just declared was completely incompetent. and so the president immediately turned to mr. them -- and said, steve, you wouldn't resign, would you? and he said, absolutely, i would, mister president, you leave me no choice. and i said, you are not the only ones. no one cares if we resigned, if need steve and i go. but i will tell you what will, happen you will lose your entire department. e...

So, this was in line the president saying, well, i have to lose -- and along those lines, so, suppose i do this. suppose i replace him, jeff rosen, with him, jeff clark. what would you do? and i said, mr. president, i would resign immediately. i'm not working one minute for this guy, who i had just declared was completely incompetent. and so the president immediately turned to mr. them -- and said, steve, you wouldn't resign, would you? and he said, absolutely, i would, mister president, you leave me no choice. and i said, you are not the only ones. no one cares if we resigned, if need steve a...

After that. i don't know the united states attorneys are going to do. we have u.s. attorneys in districts across the country. and my guess would be that many of them would have resigned. and that would then have led to resignations across the department in washington. and i said, mr. president, within 24, 48, 72 hours, you have hundreds and hundreds of resignations of the leadership of your entire justice department because of your actions. what is that going to say about you? >> mr. engel, can you describe what your reaction was to that? >> i think with the president -- i think with the presi...

Corruption that would have changed results of the election. it is going to be, the disaster of jeff clark. and i think at that point, pet supple only said, yet, is a murder suicide pact, this letter. >> i would note to, congressman, that it is this part of the conversation where steve pointed at that jeff clarke would be leaving a graveyard and that that's comment clearly had an impact on the president. the leadership would be gone and there would be left a graveyard. >> there is a thing that happens whenever you have multiple people here interviewing at once. and usually, the way that goes is...

Murder suicide pact, this letter. >> i would note to, congressman, that it is this part of the conversation where steve pointed at that jeff clarke would be leaving a graveyard and that that's comment clearly had an impact on the president. the leadership would be gone and there would be left a graveyard. >> there is a thing that happens whenever you have multiple people here interviewing at once. and usually, the way that goes is, interviewer, interviewer, interviewer, interviewee. and things really get cooking, multiple interviewees, start interacting with each other and interacting into eac...