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Into the field and take shelter under the stands and inside the dugouts and i bathrooms. new mexico does have a needle exchange program that serves 23,000 people but as of last year, you know longer have to bring back the dirty needles to get the clean ones. the city provides unlimited clean needles to cut down on disease. even though most people still exchange their dirty needles, there are thousands clearly being discarded wherever. the city of albuquerque isis putting up more needle disposalh boxes try to help increase the cleanup effort. >> sean: scary. thanks. trace gallagher. joining us ...

Despite the gates being locked, the homeless reportedly break into the field and take shelter under the stands and inside the dugouts and bathrooms. new mexico does have a needle exchange program that serves 23,000 people but as of last year, you know longer have to bring back the dirty needles to get the clean ones. the city provides unlimited clean needles to cut down on disease. even though most people still exchange their dirty needles, there are thousands clearly being discarded wherever. the city of albuquerque is putting up more needle disposal boxes try to help increase the cleanup eff...

Hopped the door to this? >> it's true. new mexico has a needle exchange program that serves between 17,000 and 20,000 people. used to be when you wanted ten clean needles, you had to bring in ten dirty ones. now you can get as many clean ones as you won't without exchanging them. the vast majority of people still bring in their dirty needles but clearly there's thousands being tossed anywhere. the city of albuquerque and the surrounding county are putting up more safe disposal boxes to help increase the cleanup effort. the mayor says the city need to invest in substance treatment abuse program...

Mobility or where we are watching people who are finding themselves in and out of the state of poverty, we also know that for many people who have found themselves in it, it is much easier to fall into poverty and much more complicated to get out. >> then what needs to be done? there's criticism that we don't want to be this growing welfare state, the government shouldn't create a handout situation, but robin hood doesn't hand out. robin hood educates, trains and mobilizes. what does the government need to do? >> and i think it is a great point because the narrative around poverty is not and s...

People to engage in healthy behaviors, so we know people are going to be using intravenous drugs and that's how these infectious diseases are being spread. if you look back at the literature as far back as 2004 the w.h.o. found compelling evidence using the needle exchange program reduces the risk of transmission of hiv. later studies suggested the effect was more modest but either way we know that and the cdc released a report in 2011 that showed one case of hiv prevented in this country is a reduction in $178,000 per person. i think that in and of itself you know exacts i should say, speak f...