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Right on the edge of constitutional legality, the official said. we were monitoring the news. but nonetheless, this is still part of the counter intelligence investigation the fbi has been conducting into russian meddling in the election because there is a need to understand the effect of this news campaign on the election. and whether or not, wolf, anyone in the trump campaign was involved in this sort of -- in this campaign in this dissemination of fake news. >> very interesting. pamela, how much -- i think we do know that much of this fake news was certainly designed to spread false negativ...

Going to bat for the kremlin and inviting the proffering of negative information about hillary clinton. so i think that's why it is so substantial. at the very least, it suggests that at the highest levels of the campaign, they were okay with sitting down with someone like that. even if this meeting didn't get that kind of information. >> anderson, you just said to ryan, you said, well, he didn't know her name, but he invited paul manafort and jared kushner in a meeting. this is what is so crucial. by his own admission, he knew what the context of the meeting was. he has said he knew he was go...

Anybody. he wasn't looking for any assurances that she wasn't tied to the russian government. all he knew is that she's a russian lawyer who probably does have ties to the russian government. but he didn't even bother -- he didn't care one way or the other, or he would have asked. >> it's also interesting, if he didn't know who he's meeting with, why call paul manafort and jared kushner, two key people on the campaign, to come in and sit in on the meeting. >> not just key people, the guy who is running the campaign, and kushner, who was sort of the de facto campaign manager. we knew three thin...

That's the issue legally, ethically and common sense wise. she said this is what i have for you and that's why he said he took the meeting. that's why they're investigating. >> chris, she had nothing. >> doesn't matter what she had. it's what she promised. >> i've known who hillary clinton is and studied her, including the last couple of months of the campaign when i was campaign manager. you know where i went to find damaging, negative information about hillary clinton? hillary clinton. it was like -- she was like a walking loop of negative information. >> maybe so. but still he said he took ...

Talking about. >> i think it's important, steve, to notice that buzzfeed is on an island. right. we have thousands of of news organizations and hundreds really in the mainstream media, and buzzfeed is the only one to drop this entire dossier, at least the first one to do it. and they were alone. and they remain sort of isolated here. trump himself in the news conference today before he started attacking cnn, he commended many news organizations. he didn't mention them by name, but commended many news organizations for basically pursuing restraint on this matter and sitting on this information....