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The reason you have 80 plus percent of the american people saying they want d.r.e.a.m.ers to stay is no strings attached. they don't say if we get border security or if this happens. this is humanitariahumanitarian. this is morality, what is right to do. and if he plays with it, well, yeah, i could extend the timeline for the program that i set arbitrarily. but i don't want to show my hand because it is a negotiating ploy. it is a dangerous space for him to be in. >> i think the values you articulated for why many people support the d.r.e.a.m.ers, forwardness, humanity, morality, they are not ...

Second-hand knowledge of those? i suppose he could have second-hand knowledge of those incidents based on conversations he had with other people in the president's inner circle. >> yeah, i had in my book -- he was still in the white house when comey was fired. i have a quote from bannon saying, telling trump you can't fire the fbi. of course, trump went ahead and tried to do that by firing comey anyway. bannon certainly has knowledge that would pertain to some of the issues that mueller is presumably looking at. where i'm not sure he does, though, is in what he told wolff, the idea the meeting...

As well. >> michael zeldin, appreciate your time. i want to bring in the panel. david, how much room do you think the president's team really does have to negotiate? he could be subpoenaed? >> i think they have room to negotiate, but ultimately they may be forced far more than they want to. looks to be so far they're having a good cop/bad cop routine with the president. his lawyers are going to come along and say, yes, but. the real is that of scope. steve bannon thought that the ultimate issue was going to be mund laundering. the president said i'm not going down that path. that's a red line....

Republican side in the wake of that tweet everybody was trying to figure out what he was doing, if this was a negotiating ploy here, what he was trying to do in terms of setting the tone for the meeting. you got the democratic response, it's clear, they want to negotiate whatever the deal is on government spending and on any of the other side issues out there right now, one to one with their gop counterparts on capitol hill. here's the problem with that. as it's been kind of told to me by several republicans in the senate and house, they need the president's sign off to move something forward ...

Let's look domestically what's happening here at home. of course the gop blitz to push through the obamacare repeal and replace plan with mitch mcconnell now hinting that republicans may need help from democrats to get it passed. how big of a political risk do you think leader mcconnell is taking with talk of bipartisanship, seema? >> i think the fact that he's even raising the idea shows what peril this bill is in. the senate just had a week-long recess where they were home and talking to their constituents and you had even more defections. right now he does not have the votes to get this bil...