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Biggest complaints -- that's why goldman sachs -- >> melissa: goldman sachs gave their money to hillary clinton. this is very similar. i don't think this is real, i think it's a negotiating ploy and is very similar to when they said they would get a reduction. it hurts the big democratic cities that are run by these who overspend. the federal taxpayers are supporting these liberal cities and overpaid. it's all about tweeting democrats. you know i'm right about that. >> juan: this is the start of negotiations over tax reform. >> abby: a lot of people are ready for tax reform.

Although can serve as monell at the sound of that, it could play to the same appeal that helped get president up elected in the first place. melissa francis, i'm a little dumbfounded. >> melissa: we need to look beneath this because the wealthiest in our society and the most powerful have become democrats. if you look around, the ceos on wall street, the country has flipped. the richest people are liberal and people at the bottom of the spectrum are depending on the government to vote democratic, working people are all republicans. it's a very clever negotiating ploy, probably stick it to you ...

Knowledge about nato, which is evident, but also basic lack of understanding of what the basis of american foreign policy has been, at least since world war ii. >> is there any part of this that you could read as a negotiating ploy on the president's part? >> i'm sure he thinks it's a negotiating point. he thinks of himself as a great deal maker. >> and i think he still envisions himself making wonderful deals with putin that his predecessors failed to make for whatever reason because they're not as good as his deal making, but because they don't understand how the world works. he knows that t...

Impossible to know. is this an effort on the part of the president-elect to be ununpredictable to keep allies and adversaries off balance? is it a negotiating ploy? only four or five of the 28 nato members pay their fair share of 2% of their gdp to the alliance. that's not necessarily the bottom line, carol, on the relevance of nato. three former secretaries of defense have criticized nato members for not paying their fair share. is this an effort to create a pay-for-service standard for allies? is it an effort to try to make vladimir putin more comfortable and to test the proposition that mr....

Everybody's modernizing, people are talking about getting more, but really between the u.s. and russia, it's pretty much locked down by treaty limits, and now it does appear that mr. trump is at least willing, even if it's a negotiating ploy, willing to open it back up again. >> interesting. sean spicer, trying to help us understand what donald trump was saying, suggested that the president-elect is saying we just won't back down to anyone else who tries to make threats, or any other country that tries to grow or expand its nuclear force. well, you know, which countries are trying to do that? ...