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Fareed, how much do you think the location of this summit matter? is the dmz a good idea, as the president seems to be indicating? >> there are two ways to think about these summits. one would be a place where you have an extended negotiation. for that the dmz is a terrible idea, because what you really need is a place like geneva or paris, a place where you have lots of hotels, people can regroup, it can go on for a long time. that's a long negotiating process. this doesn't seem like that. this seems to be more a kind of photo-op, a symbolic meeting, which is often the case with heads of stat...

So far. >> there is evidence that kim jong-un knows how to manipulate in general. he laid an interesting groundwork here in the negotiations. has he made it harder for president trump to be tough, to go back and say little rocket man, to, you know, say we're going to fire our missiles at you on the first strike, we might do it. has he cornered the president in a way? >> absolutely. and trump played into that by saying that kim is going to denuclearize, that, you know, he's honorable, that, you know there is going to be peace in korea, all that kind of stuff. makes it harder to revert to that h...

Korean war, the armistice agreement. they want sanctions lifted. they will want us to reduce our forces from south korea. they may want a marshal plan. like a bunch of money that the father wanted in the clinton agreement and bush agreement. nuclear reactors, food. it's a very poor country. i think what is achievable is some kind of reduction of tensions that involves a little give on both sides. if we expect total denuclearization, you know, shep, they have 20 to 40 nuclear weapons. they're not going to give that up. maybe over a period of time, maybe we set up a negotiating process. let's no...

World or killed, half a million people killed. if he want america great, then act great. either ep power the u.n. to lead a negotiating process, russia has the same envoy since 2012 in syria. america, changes its policy every single day. >> we have no ambassador or secretary of state. trump did manage -- not alone, he had britain and france with him. is that meaningful and does it mean that there could be a u.n. process? i was talking about this yesterday, where is the move to simply isolate syria the way for instance, we isolate north korea? there doesn't seem to be a process that follows thi...

We certainly heard from am bass do haley. what levers are will evident. you look at what's happened up to this point. what does the path forward look like. >> that is the big question. what is the path forward if there's going to be regime change, as john bolden would like to see, what is syria after assad looked like. there was effort in the obama administration to bring ink multiple parties to the table, to have that diplomatic discussion. that's part of using all of the tools in the national security toolbox. unfortunately right now, with trump's reliance strictly on military measures, and ...