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them to the table to engage in a serious fashion. and we have just given them an excuse to continue to not do that. we should not ask them for meetings, definitely we shouldn't as publicly. but they have at least five channels for contacting us. it is not like they can't get hold of us. the fact is, they don't want to talk to us. it is a negotiating strategy, they want to see us squirm and they want to see how much we will put up with. lintiii much we will put up with. until we finally _ much we will put up with. until we finally say. _ much we will put up with. until we finally say, enough. - much we will put up with. until we finally say, enough. if - much we will put up with. until we finally say, enough. if i - we finally say, enough. if i canjump in, what exactly we finally say, enough. if i can jump in, what exactly would that type of pressure look like? , ., ., like? 0k, it will give you two examples- — like? 0k, it will give you two examples. in _ like? 0k, it will give you two examples. in august - like? 0k, it will give you two examples. in august 2019, l like? 0k, it will give you two examples. in august 2019, a representative came with new york city to meet with secretary pompeo to talk about hong kong. in 2019, there were extended riots in hong kong protesting the prc�*s removal of their autonomy. and the us was using the hong kong policy act under the legislation to pressure china to stop what they were doing in hong kong.
don't want it. we have yet to put them in a position where they want to talk to us. when i was in government in this position, the approach was that when we've put enough pressure on, they will talk to us. we are yet to put enough pressure on the prc to make them, to drive them to the table to engage in a serious fashion. and we've just given them an excuse to continue to not do that. we should not ask them for meetings, definitely, we shouldn't ask publicly. but they have at least five channels for contacting us. it's not like they can't get a hold of us. the fact is, they don't want to talk to us. it's a negotiating strategy. they want to see us squirm and they want to see how much we'll put up with. in ukraine, the counteroffensive continues. and ukraine says they have made gains. 0ur correspondent mayeni jones is in kyiv with the latest. the ukrainian authorities say they're making slow and steady progress in their counteroffensive to regain territory from russia in the east and the south of the country. they claim to have recovered
dimension of this is this time element, where we really knew that we needed, by the first week of june, to have made real progress in getting this thing done. and this sensitivity that we needed to have embedded in this negotiating strategy, so that the bottom did not fall out of either end of this negotiation, we couldn't do it without a decent number of republicans voting for it. and we needed to be confident that democrats could support it as well, and the president said, you know, he really wanted the center of this to be, you know, support from his party, for what we were doing here. and that, i think, as we look back on it, is just a very, very important -- i think a piece of this that we are proud of, and i think the president just said, it was essential for doing it. we got a lot of support in our party for, you know, a tough and a fair negotiation and a
wasn't an option. so, i always felt confident we would come to a deal. the process was an intense one, mostly just me, personally, trying to parent through it. and that was interesting. >> lawrence, the toughest dimension of this is this time element, where we really knew that we needed, by the first week of june, to have made real progress in getting this thing done. and this sensitivity that we needed to have embedded in this negotiating strategy, so that the bottom did not fall out of either end of this negotiation, we couldn't do it without a decent number of republicans voting for it. and we needed to be confident that democrats could support it as well, and the president said, you know, he really wanted the center of this to be, you know, support from his party, for what we were doing here. and that, i think, as we look back on it, is just a very, very important -- i think a piece of this that we
that negotiating strategy especially by the white house which had been focused in the first two years of the administration especially managing the aggressive caucus and identifying the new democratic coalition and a group of moderates primarily and the senate left democrats who were able to power this over the finish line from the white house perspective. >> ali vitale and mike memoli, undeterred by any sound effects. i thank you both for being with us this morning. right now officials in davenport, iowa, are giving an update on the partial building collapse. let's go right to some of the details. nbc's maggie vespa joins us from davenport. maggie, what are they saying and what more are we learning about the concerns with the apartment? >> yeah, so, jose, at this point officials are giving insight into a number of things. number one, they're giving reporters in the room an update on the site surveillance and we're awaiting details on that and they have laser scanning drones over this property
now i expect there will be a deal. the same movie, same ending, and we watch once again, but i think people should keep the faith that we will resolve this, and i think the appointees of the biden ministration doing the negotiation are capable, able, principled, and speaker mccarthy and mccarthy said the same. and i think the way the negotiation has been handled has been adequate. but what i have sundown things differently? of course. i think it's a good time for the white house to demand universal background checks on gun purchases, something 80% of the country wants. i am not terribly fond of negotiating strategy when the only outcome is concessions. but i am a pragmatist pragmatist. here we are. we have to deal with what it is, not we had hoped would be. but i am optimistic. perhaps more so than most. but keep the faith. we're gonna get this done. >> let's talk about mccarthy's issue here. he's got some folks who have no interest in doing the deal. a lot of them. we saw how he won the
win. the fact that joe biden is going to be gone gives mccarthy political leverage to say, look, you're not going to hear, like, i can press you a little more on this. they're moving in a good direction. these are all the things you need to have happen to get a deal but there is going to be more. wall street pressure will add to that. this is going to get messier before it gets better. we're actually in a pretty decent spot given how close we are. >> jonathan, you report on -- i'm going to call it a little mini drama, you wrote about biden's negotiating strategy creating a problem among the base. in this case, what is their beef and is it affecting the negotiations? could it have an impact? >> the progressives that we have spoken to are expressing some anxiety the president signaled some willingness to talk about
, really have allegiance to some window dressing of bipartisan cooperation, even though that's not really what is going on in congress these days, whether or not the president takes that advice. the reality is he cannot give to mccarthy the things that he is asking for 1% increase in federal spending year over year. that's in effect very, very deep cut at a time when we have inflation running into 6% range . um you know, the democratic base will not stand for it. nor would the white house so it's tough even as the as a question of political etiquette or window dressing to say we're going to sit down and talk seriously about putting these kind of deep wounds in core programs of the federal government. you know, it could be a negotiating strategy , but sitting down quickly with, uh, with with that kind of the proposal would be a huge huge mistake for the white house. lewis. great to see you have a great weekend, ralph. and john
thinking this is disastrous j joyce, i want to go to you let's just remove this from fox news let's even remove this from being about people lying about elections to try to overthrow elections. let's just talk about basic negotiating strategy you could -- i often quote my torts professor from my first year, professor pearson, who said, you should have seen that coming like a freight train out of the mist. slow motion, coming right at you. this has all been so predictable. they had no case they were never going to let rupert murdoch or tucker carlson testify on the stand they were always going to settle but they let all the damage be dee done to their hosts, to their company brand, then they still had to pay about $800 million. so you just sit there wondering,