BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:49:00
Just see what the president of chile just did a few days ago and say, "no, no, there are democratic and human rights, huge violations in venezuela, which are a red line." so maduro is turning into a toxic ally. and lula's intent to embrace maduro backfired in his own country, in his own congress. so i do think that there is a possibility that these, let's say, ideological closer presidents in the region will understand that it's in their own interest to push maduro into a kind of transition, such as the one that we represent, in which we are willing to do an orderly and sustainable transition,...