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Piece -- russian hackers appear to shift focus to u.s. power grid. that gets your attention. his lead sentence is, state-sponsored russian hackers appear far more interested. that's what got my attention. far more interested this year in demonstrating that they can disrupt the american electric grid than the midterm elections. and he goes on to cite u.s. intelligence officials and tech company executives. what do you think of that? >> they're trying to essentially build options, whether it's warfare or negotiations. a lot of times, you'll hear people say, well, they didn't actually turn out th...

That gets your attention. his lead sentence is "state sponsored russian hackers appear far more interested," that's what got my attention, "far more interested in year in demonstrating they can disrupt the american electric grid than the midterm elections," and he goes onto say u.s. intelligence officials and technology company executives. what do you make of that? >> they are trying to build essentially options, whether it's warfare or negotiations. a lot of times you'll hear people say, well, they didn't actually turn out the power, they're not doing an act of war. but this is actually lever...

Focus to u.s. power grid. that gets your attention. his lead sentence is state sponsored russian hackers appear far more interested, that's what got my attention, far more interested in year in demonstrating they can disrupt the american electric grid than the mid term elections and he goes onto say u.s. intelligence officials and technology company executives. what do you make of that? >> they are trying to build options of whether it's warfare or negotiation. a lot of times you'll hear people say they didn't turn out the power. they're not doing an act of war. this is leverage you can have. ...

War. >>chris: gaining interest and concern by the moment, the issue of families at the border being separated. let's put up a statistics. in the first six weeks after the admission launched its zero tolerance policy, we now find out 1995 minors were separated illegally. here is president trump's explanation. >> that's so far and that's what the democrats gave us and we are willing to change it today if they want to get in and negotiate but they don't want to negotiate. >>chris: your reaction to the policy and the impact it's having in terms of separating these families? >> it's not the law. it...

May be happening sup for debate. secretary of home land security think the democrats and media are misleading folks at home and the secretary said the misreport from members and press and advocacy groups must stop. it's irresponsible and unproductive. if you're seeking asylum for your family, there's no reason to break the law and illegally cross between ports of entry. on the capital they're talking about immigration. >> they're using the grief and tears and pain of these kids as mortar to build their wall. it's an effort to escort a bill to their liking in the congress. >> it's not the law. ...