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Embarrassed as a democrat that this administration has done so little. i've tried to talk inside the fence, inside the tent, as it were, and i have not been listened to at all. so, they're going to pay a huge price because they didn't listen, they didn't do. from 2007 onward i've been saying the very same thing. we have got to have more domestic production. if he woo-- we don't we're at the mercy of opec, shame on us, we have all of this oil we are in the ground, we're not touching it. >> neil: and a maybe on president obama, and john hofmeister, it may be not a name proving for the president'...

>> neil: you're talking about unfunded liabilities and the whole nine yards, right? >> what i'm talking about, you take the debt, the unfunded civilian and military pensions and unfunded social security, under funded medicare, according to official government documents, 7 trillion 400, going up 10 million a minute and find out and track it at 10 million minute.com. and that's the number people should be talking about, know the 16 trillion dollar number. >> neil: you know, ron paul, rand paul's father, had said we're beyond the stage of cutting it. we're almost beyond the stage of thinking we c...

And so, when senator reid said that, it was disingenuous on his part. >> neil: you've got to wonder, i never find it constructive to make political hack statements from either party for the republicans to d disparadi disparadi disparage when he goes to the hurricane hit areas or mitt romney. a good gesture is a good gesture is a good gesture. done with it, shut up. >> it is and it was a good gesture and i agree with you. here is what senator reid is forgetting. some people died. some other people are still suffering. some people lost everything that they have. and to make a politically charged...

Neil? >> yikes, yikes. >> jonathan, thank you very much. jonathan serry. it's slamming drivers on this busy holiday weekend and gas prices at a record level for a labor day weekend. and jumping 30 cents just last month. could it have voters jumping away from the president, come november. who better to ask than john hofmeister, the president of shell oil. that's a staggering run-up, what's going on here? >> americans are going to pay more for gasoline this year than ever in our history, neil. that's a very serious issue, but the question, will they lay blame where blame should be laid? the pres...

Use the flame though maybe a smaller one, not that big gas guzzler when you're going around to colleges and talking about student loans and stuff like that. and you're an ecological man. why would you want to drive that truck around? >> president obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans. and to heal the planet. my promise is to help you and your family. >> neil: well, between the two of them the bottom line you argue, you pursue a coherent energy policy you'll get votes. >> if you have a coherent energy policy. we've only heard a coherent message in the last really eight months s...