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All of it, nelson cunningham, a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, who also worked under rudolph giuliani and alongside james comey among others. he also happens to be former general counsel at the white house office of administration under president clinton and former general counsel for the senate judiciary committee. counselor, thank you very much for coming on. you looked at the calendar today and said to one of our producers, with manafort's trial date now four weeks away, this would be a really good te for all of us to pay attention. what do you mean?...

Trump want to do something quiet and low key, it might be the week to do it. >> even lawyers use expressions like blow their brains out and mean it metaphorically. final point. what do you think of the president dangling this threat to get involved in the justice department yet again. >> he said i haven't been involved in my justice department. i'm sorry to say, that's untrue. i never have seen a president meddle publicly with the workings of his justice department ever in my decades of working on this. the last time we saw something like this was richard nixon and he was interfering with the ...

Firing ultimately protect president trump against a charge of obstruction of justice? joining me to discuss is nelson cunningham. he was federal prosecutor in new york's southern district under rudy giuliani. also served as general council of the senate judiciary committee under joe biden and white house general counsel under bill clinton. thanks for coming back. react to my opinion with your own. >> it's a pleasure to be with you. i think if we were talking about criminal charges of obstruction of justice, you might be right. but i think the likelihood that the recommendation by robert muel...

Through the courts. whether or not a sitting president could be subject to a criminal indictment for actions that he took either before or during his presidency. i think it's highly unlikely that mueller will go there. so what will mueller do? he might recommend impeachment. if he can colludes that the pattern that the president exhibited, starting with comey -- not even starting with comey, the famous -- the firing of comey, the work on the memo on air force one, the president's reaction to the news of the trump tower meeting, there is a whole pattern and practice here of things that could be...

They should have won. >> nelson, react to that tape and its significance. >> as a prosecutor, there is nothing better than the witness' own words, especially when captured on tape or video. i think the president could not have been clearer in his comments to lefster holt about why he fired comey. at the begin thafth week he called rosenstein into his office and said i want to fire comey. please write me a memo justifying it. and rosenstein went off and rose the memo after the president had already decided to fire him. we know from his own words to lester holt what was going through the preside...