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Scientific interest. does it worry you that this could turn into, like, a defense issue as well? >> i don't see that right now. we've got a lot of partners on artemis, and i see it as a competition like it was with the russians, and people are going to be wanting to get there, and china, as you said, china's got a program. i don't know about russia. i haven't followed that too closely. neil: but, charlie, if you think about it, russia wants to bow out of the international space program with us. i don't know if that's just a threat in the middle of this ukraine thing, but it just seems to be ge...

You're going in and everything he might say. one thing i want to hear more about, miles, is there are deleted text messages from the secret service. as much as i want to know what steve bannon has to say, i really want to know how it can be that you've got secret service text messages after i asked you to keep them, poof, go away. what are your thoughts on this? i mean, it's a little bit confounding, a little bit nerve wracking to think this is happening if it's anything nefarious. >> the secret service agents themselves are well-meaning patriots. but this is an agency whose culture is absolut...

The spatter in the kitchen alcove, could have been a cut finger, said the defense but any way nobody could really tell when it was left there. and as for a prosecution claimed that cal tried to wash away blood on the garage floor. >> there is a small amount of diluted blood that was found days after the new york state police had walked through this particular area of the house while they were conducting the search. >> walking out is not going to destroy the blood cells. >> it could dilute it if their boots are wet. >> finally, the defense decided jurors needed to hear from cal harris, as a car...

But, you know, we will cherish those memories forever for sure. >> carley: we just showed a picture. we showed it of you, ivana and your son in a stroller when he was little. what was it like meeting her for the first time. i know when i met my in-law's for the first time when i was dating my husband. it's a little scary because you want to make a good impression. when you are meeting the trump family for the first time, that must be something else entirely. >> yeah. no, that is true. it's always nerve-wracking to meet who might be your future in-law's when their names are donald trump and iva...

Pull up into black suburbans. i thought i was dreaming. >> nobody famous has ever been here. it was almost like in slow motion. like him walking into the office. >> i actually wasn't going to come here. and i got a phone call from my son anthony, he said mom. this is bigger than we think. and he sends me a picture while i'm talking to him. and rudy is sitting at my desk, and the plaque in front of my desk says boss lady. i looked at my husband, i said we better get over there. >> we demand a fair election! i demand you shut the house up! we demand a fair election! we demand a fair election! >>...