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No relationship. me, he respects me. he does not take on the human rights issue. what's the net plus minus on that? >> had i been advising this president you go to philippines for the meetings but not the bilateral meeting. we should not be on the same stage with him. he is doing extra judicial killings on a large scale. he is a thug, quite honestly. he is extremely pro-china in some of his behaviors. the purpose of american foreign policy is not to have friendly relations with other countries. it's to have them respect us and behave in ways that show respect for our values, which ought to als...

Nfl because they're dealing with real need, puerto rico, las vegas or even in washington, d.c. with pelosi town hall. nobody cared about the nfl. they sent pence out. he left. what's the net plus/minus on that? >> an event they couldn't have anticipated, using taxpayer dollars for that kind of divisive move when vice president pence could have tweeted about that, been at a supply drive for victims of the hurricane in puerto rico, people still without water and electricity. we'll have our own refugee crisis. they're all going to be leaving that island coming to the homeland because they're with...

Toxic or you can see it as strong and united and they're sort of giving you that alternative view. >> they are. >> of that we're still a strong united country. >> there's many politicians presenting that toxic view. it's interesting to me that corporate america is better now at inspiring us to have our common value than most of our politicians are. >> it's a commercial though bill, right? and reality is complex. this isn't a binary choice. is everything bad or is everything good? but what do you think the net plus minus is for cadillac? >> i thought cadillac ad came off very well. i did think ...