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Many people when the folks like the single mom and the student and the small businessman who wants to now start a small business and can, when those people leave their jobs in 2015, '16, '14, '15, '16 others are going to take those jobs. finally, in 2017, if there's full employment and no one it to take those jobs, it will raise wages. one of our big problems. this is a net plus. i'd say one final thing. >> let me get a sons from senator portman. i'm sure you're happy to have democrats on the defensive. why shouldn't this be seen as freedom for folks who didn't have it before? >> it's not that...

A lot of these policies are. >> that's why we need a streamlined system where the entrepreneur doesn't have to buy a cadillac program, which. when young entrepreneurs need something more simplistic. >> you put up a good defense of obama care a few minutes ago. are you comfortable enough by next fall, obama care would be a net-plus, that you would encourage people to run as obama democrats? irpts i think the website has to get fixed. when you website gets fixed and people see these plans are good, they're affordable plans, i think that will be a net positive. i also think -- there's some irony ...

The witness. >> didn't you think it was helpful, both the walk through that george did with the police and then the interview that he did with me and that the prosecution brought george's own story in twice in full. helpful to your defense? net plus? any negative to that? >> video is pretty powerful, isn't it? george zimmerman told the story for you to see and told it to you, too. >> the prosecutors said it was cowardly for george zimmerman to take the stand. he told your story twice. you showed it twice. >> how dare they denigrate the verdict. >> did the comment in my interview about god's wi...

And tens of hundreds of thousands of them will be massacred. so we will change the composition of who's killing whom but it's not entirely clear to me that's a net plus on a humanitarian basis. we have to recognize that unless we are willing to really get involved here and occupy the country or get -- engage in some kind of massive intervention, the chance that we can shape this -- the outcome of a very pushi murky and complex civil war is limited. the president also wants to kind have it both ways. so he's trying to do a little bit. in a sense the metaphor here is that he's trying to get a li...

Asked him about that -- they have to pay back taxes, they have to pay publics and have a job and continue to -- to pay taxes into the system, it's a temporary thing. they have to keep renewing it. and it's going to take 13 years at the least to become a citizen. so it's not a free path. in addition to which, one of the issues is the cost. you know, there is going to be a budget buster. they will go on welfare or get obamacare. absolutely not. until they become a citizen, they do not get any federal benefit and they pay taxes. he says it will be a net plus for the treasury, not a drain. >> anot...