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>> that's right. 9-9-9. it's interesting. he was, and we also know he was the head of godfather's pizza but he understands the value of marketing. he was speaking in iowa recently and he said let he tell you about the economic plan and he said nine, and the crowd said the other two nines. they may not know exactly what it means but they know it. but if you said what is perry's economic plan or perry's, they wouldn't know it. there's controversy whether it would bring in as much money as the current sales tax system does, whether it ends up benefiting the wealthy and hurting the poor. but at le...

He's fundamentally failed us. anyone who is going to expand this group and brings a little savvy on the subject i think is a net plus. >> greta: scholz garten. >> is here in iowa not in the race yet. congresswoman bachmann is she stealing your thunder? >> i like sarah palin a lot. we are very good friends. i think there's room in the race for governor perry, sarah palin and bret you too. >> bret: speaker gingrich. >> mayor giuliani has every right to run. governor perry has a great record of job creation in texas. very formidable person. governor palin has a nationwide audience. it is a shock ...

Book out now, it's called on the tea party titled "mad as hell" due out next month. scott has not taken part in that. more on that story later. first off, doug, who was right? >> i think it's pretty obvious -- >> you were right. >> scott and i were. pat and i wrote a number of articles saying health care would be a disaster. beneson said health care would be a net plus. it's 60% want repeal. 30% want to keep it. we said the agenda was a failure. it's proving to be a failure. i think we're pretty clear that we were right and correct. >> i read a poll this morning that most people under 40 don't...

Gonzalez weighing in on whether to repeal element of the 14th amendment that automatically grand citizenship to anyone born in america, even to the mother of an illegal alien. will they be driving forces in mid-term elections? probably not. because as your previous guest just discussed, republican and democrats i talked to agree the economy will be the central focus. but these other issues have gained prominence. shannon: do the republicans see that as a potential advantage for them? >> reporter: at margins. they know anything that motivates their base is a net plus for them as they try to gat...

The polls are tanking, particularly among hispanics and african-americans. >> they're not tanking. no evidence it's tanking anywhere in the country. >> to 2004 levels. >> read charlie cook's report yesterday who said the trend line is swinging back toward the democrats for the first time in the entire cycle. >> i hope you hold on to that. >> read your own fox polls and look at the -- >> they're not fox polls. look at real clear politics. >> all right. all right. >> 4-point net plus. >> you keep thinking that. we'll be fine. >> simon and kate, i really enjoyed this. we'll have you both back. ch...