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Believe conspiracy theories have led to a deficit of credibility. >> joining us now is terrence smith who also worked for the new york times and pbs news hour and, terry was scott pelley basically bounced for low ratings or something so much more? his office was cleaned occupy while he was overseas and no successor lined up. >> it was very messy and i'm sure the network doesn't like the way it has unraveled but neither does scott pelley. i think he has ratings were certainly the primary cause. he had been there for six years. they didn't see, i gather, much chance that he would build the ratin...

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It doesn't excuse any nam. because buz -- if that is the case, if they essentially sanctioned. they say look, you no longer do with grechen carlson. now you're aware of bill o'reilly and other settlements. surely you knew about my case as well. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. tomorrow fox starts a new line up in the our nightly news la later tonight. sign up right now at

Responsibility and cast blame instead of to one that makes it. >> i wonder, in order stay employed, find show on another network doesn't he have to keep arguing this? >> that is certainly his position. he is backed up but the preponderate of the united states who defended him right after emily's story came out saying i don't think he did anything wrong. if you watch fox news and you see carlson this stomacher there were examples of what her koe host was saying to her. you have seen bill oh lislely can this is just the way things

Mistake and you are going to hope that another network doesn't pick it up and make fun of you over it. happening during horrible breaking news. we weren't on. she was. >> and then you make a very very good point. >> w we didn't make a mistakeew. because we weren't on. >> the point being because. >> that we have shepard smith? >> i just made that in the last block. >> yeah. >> fox executives said you know what? let's not put opinion show not interviewing people on air and interview breaking news people at the moment.t who do you call out on this one? >> look, that's an executive decision. they ...