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To give the speech when he was having lunch with the news people today. he was complaining about going to the border. i don't think anybody -- any network executive was happy about the choice they had to make, happy that they covered this, and i actually don't think that the speaker pelosi or leader schumer were very excited about responding to it, either. it just -- it completely unremarkable event. i hate to -- for me to invite you on your show about a news thing and say i just don't see anything there. i think the person that came on before made a good point, he seemed not to be talking abo...

It changed nothing, and he knew that. he was complaining about having to give the speech when he was having lunch with the news people today. he was complaining about going to the border. i don't think any network executive was happy about the choice they had to make happy that they covered this and i don't think pelosi or the leadership were excited about responding to it either. it just -- a completely unremarkable event. i hate for you to invite me on a show about a news thing and say i just don't see anything there. i think the person that came on before made a good point. he seemed not to...

United states who is saying on twitter, "thank you for so" and there's multiple os, the way some people do, "so many nice comments regarding my oval office speech. a very interesting experience." what tells me we'll hear more about that interesting experience? james, where do you put the politics of all of this right now in the wake of the president's speech tonight? >> i don't think anything happened tonight. i mean, we had a remarkable night. we had a president that gave a speech that didn't want to give the speech. we had networks that covered the speech that didn't want to cover the speech...

No, no. it's either true or it's false. and if it's a lie, you call out the lie. and that's happening now on the right and it has been happening for years now with donald trump supporters. if you're a network executive and you know somebody is coming on to spread hatred through lies and misinformation, it seems to me that you're just like a lawyer that can't put a witness on the stand if you know they're going to commit perjury. >> well, i think the decision has been made at the network level and the only thing i would say is that i trust rachel maddow and i trust lester holt and i trust savan...

Similar. >> dana: indeed. also joey jones also saying you can tell a lot, you can get so much information from an unexploded device. you can find fingerprints. you can figure out maybe perhaps where the items were purchased and also where it was sent from. president of the united states saying that the full weight of the federal government, all the resources are being brought to bear on this, fbi, department of justice, u.s. secret service department of homeland security coordinating with all of these local governments and the police department. >> you know. you were in the white house at the ...