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We'll hear that former agent from last night's 60 minutes. >> we made some am died terrorists -- al qaeda terrorists with american bloods on their hands uncomfortable for a few days but we did the right thing for the right reason. amount right reason was to protect the homeland and to protect american lives. >> shepard: his name is jose rodriguez. he is the former head of the cia clandestine services. as he puts it, the guys who do the dirty work. he even admits he he did, indeed, okay the destruction of audio and video evidence of the waterboarding. he says did he it in order to prevent al qa...

Would say where i defend networks is one thing we generally find in that role many network and system operators not truly understand their systems and structures and one of the things i think is part of this is how do we help those local, federal, state entities truly understand their network structure, what its potential vulnerabilities and harness the information that the intelligence structure and other elements providing them? it's part of working through the process. >> director wray. >> senator, i think this is one of the areas that's been a lot of discussion of doing better and this is ...