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Who knows the va well, has confidence in the hill, and he's a good interim selection, because the brand of the va's been damaged and it didn't start in arizona. remember in washington, d.c., patients were being discharged -- >> your paper was breaking the story. >> the problem hasn't been fixed. the president campaigned against that. he campaigned against that. >> what is the problem of getting enough doctors to serve the needs of the va veterans? why is it so hard to deal with a case load, why is that so hard? are we putting the money into doctors? >> well, that's a very good question. first ...

That may not be technically their fault, but it's a massive screwup. isn't there any sense of honor anymore? we don't have that tradition anymore. >> we do not, and in this case, there's an urgency for general shinseki, who's an honorable man and served his country honorably, but he needs to step aside. the president's got a really first rate guy in rob neighbors, who knows the va well, has confidence in the hill, and he's a good interim selection, because the brand of the va's been damaged and it didn't start in arizona. remember in washington, d.c., patients were being discharged -- >> your ...