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The rest of the news media was very reluctant to do that. "the new york times" did not say the word "lie with the word "trump" until september of 2016. >> that sounds right. >> so basically in the closing section of the presidential campaign. are there any regrets at the times about that? i understand the struggle that the major newspapers went through on this question, but i noticed at that time, new york times, l.a. times, everybody kind of broke out at the same time. >> it seems like there was a bit of a tunnel shift in the coverage around that time. i think what's unique about this piece i...

Section of the presidential campaign. are there any regrets at the times about that? i understand the struggle that the major newspapers went through on this question, but i noticed at that time, new york times, l.a. times, everybody kind of broke out at the same time. >> it seems like there was a bit of a tunnel shift in the coverage around that time. i think what's unique about this piece is that it's an opinion piece, and it's the subjective view of david and i to evaluate those claims. but we have seen, you know, the news section call occasionally something a lie. but we can use a sort of ...

Was debunked within three days. i remember writing a column four days after the attack in which it was absolutely totally obvious that the shooter was a paranoid schizophrenic. he had no idea what was going on. there were no ideas in his head. one of his teachers had said he was living his own world. at the time, this is what is most egregious, people don't even remember, the day after the shooting, the "times" ran in the news section on the front page; something it labeled the news analysis that introduced this false introduce that jared loughner, the shooter, was motivated by this thing on t...

Debunked six years later, it was debunked within three days. i remember writing a column for days after the attack in which it was absolutely, totally obvious that the shooter was a paranoid skits are frantic. he had no idea what was going on. if what his teachers had said, he was living in his own world. at the time, this is with most egregious people don't even remember the day after the shooting, the times ran in its news section on the front page, he had labeled news analysis and introduce this false idea that jared lautner the shooter was motivated by this thing on the website that showed...

>> well, that's a great question, but, you know, i read interview after interview of people who voted for trump bit said you're on immigrant to this country, why would you vote -- oh, he doesn't really mean he's not going to build the wall or you're a blue collar worker who he's not really going to take away my health care through obamacare. and he's doing it. i don't understand the disconnect between people who didn't listen to what he said on the campaign trail and his actions now. >> what do you -- the "wall street journal" which of course is a conservative newspaper, the editorial page is ...