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And it's definitely not a joke when the president of the united states says it. >> there were a lot of people angry at you a. it was used that -- there were other people who other fellow reporters who were not happy with that decision. >>i think's a tradition in journalism that really comes from the notion that, well, we control the printing presses, we control the broadcast pipes. the only information we're getting is information we broadcaster, newspaper printers decide to give you. >> and have verified, i mean crucially. >> for sure. that is in the higher parts of

And it's definitely not a joke when the president of the united states says it. >> there were a lot of people angry at you a. it w it was used that -- there were other people who other fellow reporters who were not happy with that decision. >>i think's a tradition in journalism that really comes from the notion that, well, we control the printing presses, we control the broadcast pipes. the only information we're getting is information we broadcaster, newspaper printers decide to give you. >> and have verified, i mean crucially. >> for sure. that is in the higher parts of the press, that is --...