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>> this is not about phasing out medicare. it is about reforming the sim. no. no. no. >> hold on, let me make this one point? can i just make this one point and i will be quiet. make this one point -- >> i'll bet you won't, but go ahead. >> you are talking about eliminating medicare that is not what the ryan plan does what it does is puts in a premium support -- based on what clinton did -- >> it's putting in a gift certificate. >> you're wrong. >> michael steele for the defense, thank you. he's defended newt up until about two minutes ago. thank you, david corn. good to have you aboard. >> th...

Ryan plan does what it does is puts in a premium support -- based on what clinton did -- >> it's putting in a gift certificate. >> you're wrong. >> michael steele for the defense, thank you. he's defended newt up until about two minutes ago. thank you, david corn. good to have you aboard. >> that's right. we're going to talk to the book's author, her former aide, frank bailey, when we return in just a minute. this is "hardball," only on msn msnbc. [ male announcer ] in a typical classroom, the "a students" and the troublemakers get all the attention. so how do you reach the kids in the middl...

>> passionate. >> how many find huckabee likeable? passionate? something clearly positive about his personality. the question is, is he presidential? >> absolutely. he doesn't waiver on issues. he stands for principle. there's no confusion. >> he's consistent in his values. >> he's naive. he's a fiscal liberal but social conservative. he needs to have a mix of both. >> he's a peacemaker and statesman. that's a rare combination we need. >> sean: huckabee won three years ago, and romney, next, he did not win iowa but he won new hampshire. no, who won new hampshire. i'm sorry the latest poll has ...

>> passionate. >> how many find huckabee likeable? passionate? something clearly positive about his personality. the question is, is he presidential? >> absolutely. he doesn't waiver on issues. he stands for principle. there's no confusion. >> he's consistent in his values. >> he's naive. he's a fiscal liberal but social conservative. he needs to have a mix of both. >> he's a peacemaker and statesman. that's a rare combination we need. >> sean: huckabee won three years ago, and romney, next, he did not win iowa but he won new hampshire. no, who won new hampshire. i'm sorry the latest poll has ...