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Of the national urban league. mark, thanks for coming to the show tonight. >> reverend, congratulations on the show. good to be with you. >> good to be with you. >> thanks for your advocacy. >> how can we take care of the 99% if the republican party is so focused on protecting the top 1%? how do we take care of the 99? >> one thing newt and chris christie ought to do is call the folks in congress saying give us an up or down vote on the president's american jobs act which has never been voted on because of filibusters in the united states senate so it's important for people to know there's nev...

Whether or not they would be able to support us going forth, end of quote. cain's replacement as the flavor of the month, newt gingrich, added his two cents to the scandal today. >> i think it's his decision to make. he has to do what he thinks is best. >> best for who, newt? you? since cain started to tank in the polls, newt has surged to the top. a new robo poll in iowa shows newt leading the pack with 2 26% -- with 28% rather and mitt romney way behind at 12%, and in a south carolina robo poll, newt has 38% while romney struggles at 15%. willard's even suffering on his home turf. although h...

Bailouts. they were very concerned about the direction of the country and the misery index, et cetera, and so people kind of blindly, in my opinion, went for the tea party, and now they have had a chance to govern, and they don't have solutions, so, you know, i think americans are wising up. i agree with governor rendell. mitt romney is the more formidable candidate, and i also think, that you know, there's still time for him to get -- to lay a glove on newt. these two men are flip and flop. i mean, newt gingrich flip-flops, you really might be able to lay them end to end and they will match r...

Just falls apart, the votes don't go to romney, and so the thing about gingrich, i'm shocked by this, and i'm on record saying, you know, he's going to rise and fall like the rest of them. there's not that much time for him to fall. i believe it's still possible, but, you know -- >> plus, we know -- we know a lot of newt's negatives already. i think you're right. there's in the a lot of time for him to fall, and there's not a lot of negatives that we already don't know about him. >> right, right. >> governor, let me ask you this. if newt is the ultimate beneficiary of all of this, barney frank...

Tried to be -- pursue the front-runner strategy where he doesn't criticize any other republicans, he sort of stays above the fray, i think he can't do that. i think he has to unload on gingrich and hope to do second place showing in iowa, win in new hampshire and come back and win in south carolina, but -- but time is running short, and i think they have got -- the romney campaign has to change their strategy. >> well, it's five weeks from today they start voting. joan, governor, if you think the pictures of him sitting on the couch with nancy pelosi something, you wait and see if he's the nom...