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Which our universe is a universe of real accomplishments and their universe is a universe of essentially trying to block everything, and i think if we communicate that correctly, we will win by a huge margin. i did this the other night with you and you were shocked -- on your radio show -- because i was so optimistic. are you really this optimistic and my answer is simple. if the president and his team and the republicans in congressl and their consultants can wage a campaign that insists that this election is about the issues that matter to the american people, we can shock people on election...

Is this to say they cannot pull it out and that is why the goals down? >>reporter: some say this is what happens when they are successful in pakistan and they are making it difficult to pull off the grander attacks and al qaeda is forced to go with something they might normally consider sub par but there is a great amount of concern because it is harder to detect the lower scale attacks that can do a fair amount of damage. >>shepard: interesting piece. thank you from washington. crews are working around the clock, the 33 miners, buried alive for three weeks now with ins to go and brand new tod...

Whites, 8.8%. the president has a meeting with the congressional hispanic caucus by the way tonight. he has said he recognizes the digs proportionate effect of employment an african-americans but says the best thing he can do for that group or any group is to, quote, get the economy as a whole moving. megyn. megyn: we heard that when they had the meeting during the big snowstorm, i remember that. it took place in washington that day. thank you very much. >> thank you. megyn: he is an al-qaeda recruiter, linked to the fort hood shooter and the christmas day bomber, and she is an american who ca...