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Was formed and they made the recommendations, they made recommendations to protect america. but the republicans would never take them up and some of it was about our borders. >> laura: is she saying 9-11 was an incident? democrats are tough on immigration. well, to debate that, let's bring in michael cutler, special agent at ins, predecessor to ice and francisco hernandez. great to see both of you. francisco, how are democrats tougher on immigration than republicans? when she's trying to convince of that, leads me to believe she knows they're losing on this ice issue. she's making a bold procl...

9/11 incident and the commission was formed and they made their recommendation, they made recommendations to protect america. but the republicans would never take them up and some of it was about our borders. >> laura: is she saying 9/11 was an incident democrats are tough on immigration. well, to debate that, let's bring in michael cutler, special agent at i.n.s., predecessor to i.c.e. and francisco hernandez. great to see both of you. francisco, how are democrats tougher on immigration than republicans? which, when she's trying to convince us of that, it leads me to believe she knows they're...

The issue. and now a super pac aligned with house republican leadership is out with an ad targeting the democrat in an upcoming ohio special election. >> the liberal resistance is demanding open borders. they want to eliminate the law enforcement agency that enforces our immigration laws, opening america's doors to more crime and drugs. and they want danny o'connor's help. >> another gop group is trying to make this an issue in senator manchin's race, and some democratic gubernatorial hopefuls are being targeted in ads too. why does it matter? republicans see the i.c.e. issue as an easy way to...

Operations. but only 18 democrats? >> remember, we've only had i.c.e. since after 9/11. about 15 years of i.c.e. in the view of people on the left, laura, i.c.e. is implicated in the separation of children from parents and not only that, rating communities, business, making people extremely nervous about their status here. breaking up families. >> laura: then reform i.c.e. don't abolish it. speak about the political maneuver here was that the democrats -- this is the boxing you were talking about -- the democrats initially said, let's vote to abolish i.c.e. that the republicans pulled the bill...

Saying about this i.c.e. issue, immigration enforcement in general. >> i'm voting present on this resolution because it is a sham and a distraction. a sham it's shameless and it'ss and a inappropriate. distraction. >> what we have today is a a it's shameless and it's shameless, spineless group ofop. >> what we republican congressional enablers. today is a shameless, spineless group of republican congressional enablers. >> you take your marching orders from laura ingraham and tucker carlson quicker t >> you take your marching orders from laura ingraham and tucker carlson quicker than the presid...